Thursday, September 27, 2007

Could Uptown Use a Bodega?

Lately it's seemed that the rise of big box retailing has meant the end of the neighborhood grocery store, and with it, a continuation of the feedback loop that makes building vibrant sidewalk shopping districts so hard in the suburbs: as conveniences leave main street, main street becomes less convenient. Duh. That's why I was excited to read a recent Pop City article about a new Giant Eagle Express grocery store coming to the Manchester neighborhood in the city. Quoting the article:
“It’s a new neighborhood grocery concept that’s meant to fit in to urban and rural areas, where there isn’t a big box,” says Dick Roberts, with Roberts Communications. “It varies depending upon the neighborhood and property.”
The first thing I thought was: what a great idea for uptown Lebo. (It needn't be a Giant Eagle — maybe there's a new generation of McGinnis kids looking to branch out?) It would be great. Uptown has a high concentration of condos and apartments, with more on the way. I'm sure the people living there would love to be able to walk to the store. I loved it, when I was a kid living in the city. Also, there will soon be a suites hotel, and extended-stay guests there will probably want to be able to buy food somewhere close.

Unfortunately, I get the sense that a grocery store doesn't fit with a certain prevailing vision of Washington Rd. That groceries, like karate, are too pedestrian for an uptown of boutique shops and nice restaurants. How's that for irony! But that's not how I see it. To me a small urban grocery uptown conjures images of Parisians stopping on the way home from work to pick up fresh food and a baguette for that evening's dinner. That's what I'm talking about — a place to buy fresh produce, meat, fish and dairy, rather than a convenience store. Such a place would fit in nicely uptown. Remember, bodega is etymologically the same as boutique.

Of course, this all leaves the question of where you'd put one. Uptown, happily, has few, if any, vacant storefronts. Rollier's obviously has the best location, but they're not going anywhere any time soon. The hotel site would have been another good spot, with parking below, like the old Center Ave. Food Gallery in the city. If rumors of Molly Brannigan's demise are not exaggerated, that could be a nice spot for a small grocery, especially if they could get access to the parking lot in back. Maybe if the town ever gets its act together about developing the air rights over the T station, they could put one there, although that would take some creative architecture, I think.

Regardless, of the specific location, this is the kind of development that should be considered in making a vibrant main street on Washington Rd. Maybe as part of the Port Authority's efforts to develop the areas around the T station? Your thoughts?

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Blogger Tim Nolan said...

I love the idea of a small grocery store in uptown or even on Beverly Road (my neighborhood). But I'm not getting my hopes up. Grocery stores have extremely thin margins to begin with. I can't see how they would make any money with the small square footage available either on Washington Rd or on Beverly.

But again, I would love to see it happen!

September 28, 2007 12:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A bodega would be the perfect addition to uptown or the Beverly Road area (my neighborhood too). In relation to the post about pedestrians, Mt. Lebanon is a walking community, so a bodega seems like a natural addition to the neighborhood, to me anyway. In Philadelphia, there are bodegas in all the fancy neighborhoods, intermixed with boutiques and restuarants. (Check out DiBruno Brothers) Whatever happened to the Trader Joe's on Washington Road rumors?

September 28, 2007 9:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I, too, like the idea. Something akin to the Uncommon Market up at the corner of 19 and Highland. That place is pretty small but they pack a punch.

Sure the margins will be thin, but if they can charge more than a 'normal' grocery and less than a convenience store, they might do alright.

The point is well taken, however, parking there will be tough. If you just want to stop on your way home for a fresh loaf of bread, having to spend 10 minutes parking/walking to the store removes the convenience from the convenience store.

*CitizenA*

September 28, 2007 2:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There used to be an old-fashioned market next to the municipal building when I was a kid. Does anyone remember it's name? It closed in the 80s.

Also, wasn't there some chatter at one point about Trader Joe's possible moving into uptown. I think I could die happy if that ever happened!

September 28, 2007 3:17 PM  
Blogger Mike Madison said...

I'm no native, but even I know that the store next to the Municipal Building was an Isaly's.

Here's a map of "Where Isaly's Used to Be

September 28, 2007 3:39 PM  
Blogger Casey West said...

I want a small market on Beverly or Uptown (Beverly preferred in my case) in order to walk there for milk, bread, eggs, and other things (organic/all natural preferred in this case).

That was the single most important missing item when we searched for the perfect location to move into in Mt. Lebanon to maximize a walking lifestyle.

Although, I haven't checked out the Potomac Ave area, which I live close to as well. If I was in a pinch I could walk to Kuhn's on Banksville, but we don't shop there on a regular basis and it's still a long hike.

I'd do my part at a store like this, especially if it were on Beverly.

September 28, 2007 3:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I could be mistaken, but I remember Isaly's being where the fabric studio currently is and the market being where the karate studio is. Anyone else remember this market?

September 28, 2007 4:22 PM  
Blogger Jefferson Provost said...

Not only was there an Isaly's, but when I was a kid were no less than three drugstores. Simultaneously! Later there was also a Rite-Aid that may have coexisted with one or more of these others. Uptown was less fancy at night back then, but much more convenient during the day.

September 28, 2007 4:28 PM  
Blogger Jefferson Provost said...

Rite-Aid was where Textile Studio is now. Isaly's was next to the municipal building. After Isaly's closed, it was briefly replaced by another deli/market called A Little New York. It didn't last long.

September 28, 2007 5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back in the 70's, Isaly's, Hal's (an NYC style deli) and Dickler's (a great grocery store) all occupied Beverly Road. Those were the good ole days.

September 29, 2007 3:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget there used to be a small Shop-n-Save at the bottom of Academy Avenue on Cochran until six or seven years ago. It was replaced by the knuckleheads at Rite Aid who then closed up shop and allowed the beautiful Dollar General to open. I actually am not against DG. The free market is what it is. But I wish they would take down the drive through pharmacy canopy that is still there. Now that would be a better location for a Trader Joes, even though traffic on Cochran is already a nightmare.

September 29, 2007 9:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know it's a little of topic but what about that traffic on Cochran Road at evening rush hour. The traffic extends up GreenTree Road and all the way down Forsthye to the mini golf course. I feel for the folks who sit in traffic.

Last thought, Jefferson are you related to the Provost Family who lived on Espy Avenue in Dormont? I heard they were great people, but the old homestead like a lot of Dormont is in disrepair

September 29, 2007 8:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps using part of the old Dennis would work with parking inside as well. A huge building like that is a shame to leave empty.

We have many seniors that would love to be able to walk to the "market".

September 30, 2007 8:14 AM  
Blogger Jefferson Provost said...

No. I was unaware of a Provost family on Espy. There was another family of Provost kids in Lebo schools at the same time by brother and sister and I were there. I think they went to Foster School (we went to Washington). They may be related.

September 30, 2007 2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, I thought you were part of that other Provost Family who live on Vernon Drive. They are the folks who are originally from Dormont, 2959 Espy to be specific.

Its ironic but Giant Eagle started as little community markets and now they are thinking about that concept again!! The now closed Spar Market on Potomac Avenue used to be a Giant Eagle!

September 30, 2007 8:54 PM  
Blogger John Truel said...

For all you fans of the Beverly Road idea it won't work. Not only did there use to be a Isaly's on Beverly, but there was a small Family grocery store called Dicklers, and a full service Deli all at the same time. When i grew up on Shadowlawn in the 70's and 80's we had more people living in the are than there are now. I would love to have something like McGinnis or Trader Joes, but the idea will not work when Giant Eagle builds a monster like that thing at the Mall.

October 01, 2007 4:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forget the old Denis. It has been bought recently and will soon become a newly renovated theatre! Abodega would have been perfect where Walker Rugs used to be.

October 01, 2007 10:49 PM  
Blogger Jonathan Potts said...

When I lived in Mt. Lebanon I appreciated that Rollier's sold milk, eggs and even ice cream. Our neighborhood grocery in Brookline closed down more than a year ago. The local chain convenience stores, as well as CVS -- while supplying little in the way of charm -- at least provide a place to buy milk or bread without having to jump in a car.

October 02, 2007 2:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone find out some more info. on the last post that stated the Denis has been bought and is being turned into a theater again. That is news to me!

October 02, 2007 2:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, the Denis has been bought by a group of residents who are going to renovate it for the showing of indy films, i.e. those shown in Squirrel Hill and Regent Square, or whatever else might spike some interest.
Spoke with one of the owners not 10 days ago, the day after she bought it--they are thrilled!

October 03, 2007 11:16 AM  
Blogger Mike Madison said...

Eventually, information about the Denis will be disclosed (I hope) on behalf of and in the names of the actual buyers, rather than via anonymous commenters. For now, everyone should note that the deal hasn't closed. Unless and until it does, keep those corks in the bottles and the champagne on ice.

October 03, 2007 11:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: Dicklers Market: I was just cleaning a small wire kitchen beater which I have had for decades, since living in Mt. Lebanon in 1956 thru 1960.

The tool is a flat plastic handle attached to a round wire coil spring, narrow at the top, attached to the handle, and about 2" in diameter as it flares to the bottom. Faded but still quite visible on the handle it says in blue : "To the town's finest housewife and mother From Dickler's Market, 299 Beverly Road, LO 1-0500 We Deliver"

Great for scrambling eggs, blending dry into liquid ingredients or whatever, I have used this wonderful little tool almost daily for over 55 years. Reading the inscription I suddenly had to put off my breadbaking to come see if I could find any trace of Dickler's on the 'Net, and found your site where John" and Dave Franklin both mentioned Dickler's. (Sept. 2007)

I wonder how many ladies in Mt. Lebanon remember theses dandy little whips! Loving thoughts to all of you in Mt. Lebanon. Our three children were all born at St. Clair Hospital and my memories of the area and our neighbors are warm and plentiful, even today.

Hope someone sees this...if so, did you ever get your market?

Nancy Lovell

June 01, 2011 11:22 PM  

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